[Burr:] . . . you don’t find it easy to say things?
[Ammons:] I don’t think so. I always feel uncertain about what I’m saying, so it’s never easy. I’m always feeling, whatever I’m saying, that I don’t really believe it, and that maybe in the next sentence I’ll get it right, but I never do. And I think it’s because I’m always trying to speak the unspeakable, but that’s the only thing that’s interesting. Why speak the speakable? That’s easy. That’s what I mean. It’s easy to speak the speakable. But how do you bring your attention to the unspeakable and then say that? That’s difficult. And you don’t know what’s going to emerge. . . .